Conditioned Soul’s and fallen gurus put into Samadhi –
the greatest offense to the Guru-Parampara
Left: Tamal Krsna a.k.a. Thomas Herzig – – Right: Kirtanananda a.k.a. Keit Ham
The "living guru"-advocates, now dead gurus – their bloated stinking corpses buried.
Conditioned Soul’s and fallen gurus put into Samadhi – the greatest offense to the Guru-Parampara
By: Concerned Prabhupada-anugas
Why known homosexuals and deviants, so-called gurus and fallen disciples, are put into Samadhi ISK’CON still has to explain?
For any sane devotee the answer is clear: these rascals want to be worshiped even after death, for their name, fame, distinction and adoration. These dead “gurus” are gone now, but their history of deception and fraud will prevail. The souls of killed devotees under their regime will surely haunt them in the after-life, and Lord Yamaraja will account for their bad karma.
Although Herzig and Ham have done some service within Iskcon (as any one else has done), still they have also defamed the reputation of Srila Prabhupada and the Hare Krsna movement by their deviations and misdeeds.
Such fallen people CAN NOT be put into a Samadhi which is reserved for very highly elevated Vaishnava saints only. Departed Vaisnavas have to be spiritually qualified to be laid in Samadhi.
The term “samadhi” refers to two things: an elevated state of awareness beyond the modes of material nature, and a mausoleum honouring those who have achieved such a state. In Vaishnava terminology, “samadhi” refers specifically to full absorption in the nama, guna, rupa, and lila of Sri Krishna. Those elevated Vaishnavas who leave their body absorbed in samadhi are exalted and to commemorate their unique achievement their followers construct a samadhi tomb in which they place their remains.
Burial is one thing, samadhi is another. To equate ordinary fallen people with highly elevated vaisnava sadhus is a great offense. Constructing Samadhis in Vrindavan (or Mayapur) for homosexual paedophile Iskcon leaders dirties the names of the great Vaisnavas and the complete guru-parampara.
Iskcon deviated leaders have become completely crazy trying to make saints out of bogus gurus, murderers, homosexual paedophile leaders, child abusers, women haters and religious propagandists disguised as devotees. For any normal devotee it is incomprehensible why ISK’CON is worshipping criminals, child abusers and cult leaders? Even constructing Samadhi's for them?
Tamal Krishna alias Thomas Herzig was a kali chela pseudo devotee, a religious propagandist with demoniac mentality who killed his guru to sit in his seat. Actually he was a Rakshasa. Kaviraja: dehhiye, bat hi hai, hi hoi rahshas ne diya ho. Translation: Look, this is the thing that maybe some rakshasa gave him poison.
414: Bhakticharu [to Bhavananda and others]: SOMEONE gave him poison. [(((audio)))]
413: Kaviraja: dehhiye, bat hi hai, hi hoi rahshas ne diya ho [(((audio)))] Hindi
Translation: Look, this is the thing that maybe some rakshasa gave him poison.
415: Kaviraja in Hindi: Caru Swami it is possible some rakshasa (demon) has given it. It is not impossible. Just like Sankaracharya was poisoned over six months with glass, etc. But the poisoner after twelve months got leprosy.. one has to suffer one's karma. [(((audio)))] Hindi
That Tamal has been buried now in Mayapur is the greatest offence. Not enough that Tamal is the main suspect in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada:
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi.....
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That's all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format - [(((audio)))]
Tamals burial near Srila Prabhupada’s Samadhi is like Rahu trying to eclipse the Moon. Rahu is always envious of the glory of the moon and therefore tries to cover him with his overshadowing presence. Similarly Tamal with his demoniac Rahu mentality tries to cover the glory of Srila Prabhupada, even after his death, by his unauthorized Samadhi near Srila Prabhupada’s Samadhi in Mayapur.
Tamal Krsna's Samadhi in Mayapur, India
Rahu (Tamas Krsna) trying to eclipse the Moon (Srila Prabhupada) even after death
Kirtanananda alias Keit Ham (a pervert and known homosexual abusing little boys) did more to systematically disgrace and degrade everything that he coveted with his lusty ambitious megalomaniacal eyes than any other rascal FISKCON Leader. He is without a doubt the most disgraceful and heinous character to every wear the saffron robes and be known as a Hare Kṛṣṇa Devotee and Leader of our once glorious ISKCON society.
Keit Ham was a monster even killing devotees who where opposed to his regime. He must be remembered for the atrocities that he committed not only against women, children and others but also the atrocities that he sanctioned during his tenure as an ISKCON Sannyāsa Guru.
Proud to the end, Kirtanananda alias Keit Ham never made any heartfelt apology to anyone he molested and/or abused. He never repented. The most disturbing is not his heinous and degraded past; it is how much those foolish followers of him still openly glorify him as if he was a pure devotee who could do no wrong no matter how debauched and degraded his life was.
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Gopal Krishna, Radhanath, Panchagauda bowing before the tomb of Kirtanananda |
GBC Members Gopal Krishna and Radhanath (left), along with ISKCON President Panchagauda das (right) bow before the tomb of Kirtanananda. It seems that the GBC is more interested in tombs worship, glorifying deviants than in the living state of ISKCON, which is rapidly turning Mayavada.
As we all know Kirtanananda Swami – Murderer, Racketeer, Charity Defrauder, Pedophile, Homosexual and Religious Syncretist: died and was taken to Vṛndāvan to be buried there. But His burial did not go smoothly, which can be expected for such a rascal of a man who took full advantage of his privileged position within the ISKCON [FISKCON] institution for the better part of his life.
Putting someone of this perverted consciousness into samadhi (building a samadhi to such a person), is quite different from burying them in Vrndavan. This is not a matter of hatred but proper understanding. Otherwise we make a sham(e) out of the Sampradaya.
Now that this man is dead they are giving him a burial in Śrī Vṛndāvan Dham. Ignorant people will call this a Samadhi but as he is not a śuddha bhakta but rather an offender or Vaiṣṇava aparādhi – it is merely a grave. Of course it would be more auspicious if he was cremated and his ashes dispersed in the Yamuna.
However what is most disturbing is not his heinous and degraded past, it is how much those who followed him still openly glorify him as if he was a pure devotee who could do no wrong no matter how debauched his life was.
In Vrndavana some of the sadhus are telling, that they had to leave the city to pass stools, because they could not contaminate the holy land, and ISK’CON are putting these devious so called gurus in samadhis in Vrndavana and Mayapur? Yikes!
Bloated, stinking dead corpse of Kirtanananda
Alanath alias Pramadvaiti (center) eulogizing the “glory” of his role model
Keit Ham’s brainwashed zombie disciples even tried to arrange a Samadhi for Kirtanananda in the most sacred holy shrine of Radhagokulanada Mandir. But the devotees at Radhagokulanada Mandir are all elevated souls and would never be taken in by rascals from iskcon-as-it-isn't-anymore or anywhere else wanting to desecrate the holy samadhis there. The authorities of Radha Gokulananda temple refused the burial of Kirtanananda at their place.
The burial site also changed due to a backlash of public opinion on the original plan to have the demon buried in the sacred Radha Gokulananda temple (one of the seven main Gaudiya temples of Vrindavan) where our authentic Gauḍīya Vaiṣṇava saints have been placed in Samādhis – Lokanatha Goswami, Narottama Das Thakura and Visvanatha Chakravarti Thakura.
Kirtanananda's final Samadhi site in Vrindavan on the Parikrama Marg (Radha Bagh section)
*** Devi Dasi: I was in Vrindavan at the time his body was brought here, and none of the maths would take it for a samadhi. It sat at Keshi Ghat till it got sorted out. A friend who lives there called me after seeing it swollen blue and smelling. Finally Gopal Krishna Maharaj arranged a refrigerator.
*** Devi: Kirtanananda threatened to come over with his hench men and German Sheperd to beat me after I questioned him about placing a known pedophile in his school in New Vrindavan. Although he was my God brother, I believe that he was a demon and his body should have been burnt ... his ashes thrown to the winds as all those innocent souls that he hurt gave a sigh of relief ..... or at least leave his body on the ground so that those who he hurt could come and give it a kick. That is very therapeutic...I hear
Kirtanananda was one of the original eleven GBC men who illegally appointed themselves as initiating dīkṣā gurus of ISKCON and actively preached that he was Śrīla Prabhupāda’s replacement on earth and that he and others of his ilk must be worshipped as good as God and Śrīla Prabhupāda.
There are so many nice dedicated souls that have left their bodies while trying to serve Śrīla Prabhupāda. However, somehow or other our leaders seem to value the bad ones, the ones that offended Śrīla Prabhupāda or tried to steal his glory, resources or disciples. The death of this Kirtanananda is inglorious and we should never see that his life and death was glorious nor should anyone take the lead of our so called leaders who glorify such a bad man.
It is astonishing to see the photos of so-called ISKCON gurus and swamis in Vrndavana paying obeisances to the dead corpse of a convicted racketeer. For the past twenty years, ISKCON has taken great pains to disassociate itself from Kirtanananda, as rightfully it should. Compared to Bhaktipada (Kirtanananda), is there anyone else in the world who did more to devastate the lives of devotees and to defame the reputation of Srila Prabhupada and the Hare Krsna movement before the eyes of the public?
Why does Kirtanananda deserve a samadhi in Vrindavana, and why is ISKCON supporting this? Incidentally, many of our Brijabasi friends are appalled that Kirtanananda was buried there under the direction of ISKCON. So this latest move has caused distress among many Brijibasis, Gurukulis and other concerned devotees.
Hopefully, the GBC will issue some statement to help us understand why, after so many years of trying to distance itself from Kirtanananda, they decided to venerate a man whom most people regard as a criminal, a cult leader and a fraud.
PLEASE ALSO SEE
http://prabhupadavision.com/2011/11/fiskcon-attends/
http://prabhupadavision.com/2011/10/kirtananda/
http://prabhupadacharya.blogspot.de/2013/02/enterro-de-kirtanananda-em-vrindavana.html
http://www.iskcontruth.com/2011/03/new-vrindavan-shocking-pictures-and.html
http://www.harekrsna.org/pada/ks/nv-body-count.htm
http://news.vrindavantoday.org/2011/10/mixed-feelings-about-kirtanananda-samadhi
http://news.vrindavantoday.org/2011/12/kirtanananda-swamis-remains-find-a-home-in-vrindavan
http://krishna1008.blogspot.de/2013/05/kirtanananda-samadhi-pictures.html
http://www.harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/12-11/editorials8044.htm
Tamala Krsna: "Put poison in different containers. That’s all right."
Tamal Krsna Swami (+1946-2002), the "living guru"-advocate
now a dead guru, on his final way to his grave for burial of his corpse.
He will always be remembered by those who have been abused under him and kicked out for opposing his false guru system:
http://www.harekrsna.org/gbc/themes/topanga.htm
http://www.harekrsna.org/Tamal-Krishna-hist.htm
Tamal Krsna's alleged poisoning of Srila Prabhupada
By: Prabhupada-anugas
Tamala Krsna: "Put poison in different containers. That's all right."
Tamal Krsna has deceived the whole devotee community with his guru-successor-hoax. After he was banned by ISK'CON he admitted that he has cheated and lied, saying: "Actually, Prabhupada never appointed any gurus. He didn't appoint eleven gurus. He appointed eleven ritviks. He never appointed them gurus". (Topanga Canyon Pyramid House Talks)
The same lies and deception Tamal Krsna also employed in the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada. Although Nityananda says in his book "Someone Has Poisoned Me", that we do not exactly know who is the culprit in giving poison to Srila Prabhupada, still from analysing the audio tapes now (after 37 years) we do know who has given poison:
Kaviraja: speaks in Hindi.....
Tamala Krsna: Put poison in different containers. That's all right.
Audio Clip in MP3 Format - [(((audio)))]
This is not a whisper - these words are clearly audible, spoken by Tamal Krsna. It is interesting to note that even though the transcription of this section of the audio tape was transcribed into the BBT Folio, this sentence was omitted. Why was this sentence omitted? How will BBT / Bhaktivedanta Archives officials explain this mystery?
COMMENT BY MAHESH RAJA
Note: sometimes some devotees think that how is it that those that gave Poison to Srila Prabhupada THE PURE DEVOTEE, took over his temples usurped money, his disciples, disobeyed and discarded the July 9th 1977 Ritvik Order, usurped the BBT, changed his books, yet nothing seems to be happening to them? We have to see THE PLAN of Lord Krsna. Krishna does NOT forget any insult, torture, ill-treatment to his PURE devotee Srila Prabhupada.
The situation with Tamal Krsna was just ONE incident of HOW he was taken out in an accident (Tamal was the one who whispered "PUT THE POISON IN THE MILK"). The rest are still in awaiting Lord Nrsimhadeva’s plan: A SINFUL MAN WHO ACTS AGAINST THE LAWS OF NATURE MUST BE PUNISHED, BUT SOMETIMES HE IS GIVEN A CHANCE TO PLAY, EXACTLY LIKE HIRANYAKASIPU WHEN HE WAS RELEASED FROM THE HANDS OF NRSIMHADEVA. HIRANYAKASIPU WAS DESTINED TO BE ULTIMATELY KILLED BY NRSIMHADEVA, BUT JUST TO SEE THE FUN, THE LORD GAVE HIM A CHANCE TO SLIP FROM HIS HANDS.
SB 7.8.26 Lord Nrsimhadeva Slays the King of the Demons
O Yudhisthira, O great son of Bharata, when Lord Nrsimhadeva gave Hiranyakasipu a chance to slip from His hand, just as Garuda sometimes plays with a snake and lets it slip from his mouth, the demigods, who had lost their abodes and who were hiding behind the clouds for fear of the demon, did not consider that incident very good. Indeed, they were perturbed.
PURPORT
When Hiranyakasipu was in the process of being killed by Lord Nrsimhadeva, the Lord gave the demon a chance to slip from His clutches. This incident was not very much appreciated by the demigods, for they were greatly afraid of Hiranyakasipu. They knew that if somehow or other Hiranyakasipu escaped from Nrsimhadeva’s hands and saw that the demigods were looking forward to his death with great pleasure, he would take great revenge upon them. Therefore they were very much afraid.
SB 7.8.27 Lord Nrsimhadeva Slays the King of the Demons
When Hiranyakasipu was freed from the hands of Nrsimhadeva, he falsely thought that the Lord was afraid of his prowess. Therefore, after taking a little rest from the fight, he took up his sword and shield and again attacked the Lord with great force.
PURPORT
When a sinful man enjoys material facilities, foolish people sometimes think, “HOW IS IT THAT THIS SINFUL MAN IS ENJOYING WHEREAS A PIOUS MAN IS SUFFERING?” BY THE WILL OF THE SUPREME, A SINFUL MAN IS SOMETIMES GIVEN THE CHANCE TO ENJOY THE MATERIAL WORLD AS IF HE WERE NOT UNDER THE CLUTCHES OF MATERIAL NATURE, JUST SO THAT HE MAY BE FOOLED. A SINFUL MAN WHO ACTS AGAINST THE LAWS OF NATURE MUST BE PUNISHED, BUT SOMETIMES HE IS GIVEN A CHANCE TO PLAY, EXACTLY LIKE HIRANYAKASIPU WHEN HE WAS RELEASED FROM THE HANDS OF NRSIMHADEVA. HIRANYAKASIPU WAS DESTINED TO BE ULTIMATELY KILLED BY NRSIMHADEVA, BUT JUST TO SEE THE FUN, THE LORD GAVE HIM A CHANCE TO SLIP FROM HIS HANDS.
SB 1.15.10 P The Pandavas Retire Timely
Queen Draupadi had a beautiful bunch of hair which was sanctified in the ceremonial function of Rajasuya-yajna. But when she was lost in a bet, Duhsasana touched her glorified hair to insult her. Draupadi then fell down at the lotus feet of Lord Krsna, and Lord Krsna decided that all the wives of Duhsasana and company should have their hair loosened as a result of the Battle of Kuruksetra. Thus after the Battle of Kuruksetra, after all the sons and grandsons of Dhrtarastra died in battle, all the wives of the family were obliged to loosen their hair as widows. In other words, all the wives of the Kuru family became widows because of Duhsasana’s insulting a great devotee of the Lord. THE LORD CAN TOLERATE INSULTS UPON HIMSELF BY ANY MISCREANT BECAUSE THE FATHER TOLERATES EVEN INSULTS FROM THE SON. BUT HE NEVER TOLERATES INSULTS UPON HIS DEVOTEES. BY INSULTING A GREAT SOUL, ONE HAS TO FOREGO ALL THE RESULTS OF PIOUS ACTS AND BENEDICTIONS ALSO.
SB 3.1.43 P Questions by Vidura
As declared in Bhagavad-gita, the Lord appears in the mortal world to execute His much-needed mission of killing the miscreants and giving protection to the suffering faithful. In spite of that mission, Lord Krsna tolerated the insult to Draupadi by the Kurus and the injustices perpetrated against the Pandavas, as well as insults to Himself. THE QUESTION MAY BE RAISED, “WHY DID HE TOLERATE SUCH INJUSTICES AND INSULTS IN HIS PRESENCE? WHY DID HE NOT CHASTISE THE KURUS IMMEDIATELY?” WHEN DRAUPADI WAS INSULTED IN THE ASSEMBLY BY THE KURUS BY THEIR ATTEMPT TO SEE HER NAKED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL, THE LORD PROTECTED DRAUPADI BY SUPPLYING AN UNLIMITED LENGTH OF CLOTHING. BUT HE DID NOT CHASTISE THE INSULTING PARTY IMMEDIATELY. THIS SILENCE OF THE LORD DID NOT MEAN, HOWEVER, THAT HE EXCUSED THE OFFENSES OF THE KURUS. THERE WERE MANY OTHER KINGS ON EARTH WHO HAD BECOME VERY PROUD OF THREE KINDS OF POSSESSIONS--WEALTH, EDUCATION AND FOLLOWERS--AND THEY WERE CONSTANTLY AGITATING THE EARTH BY MOVEMENTS OF MILITARY STRENGTH. THE LORD WAS JUST WAITING TO GET THEM TOGETHER ON THE BATTLEFIELD OF KURUKSETRA AND KILL THEM ALL AT ONE TIME, JUST TO MAKE A SHORT-CUT IN HIS KILLING MISSION. Godless kings or heads of state, when puffed up by advancement of material wealth, education and increase of population, always make a show of military strength and give trouble to the innocent. When Lord Krsna was personally present, there were many such kings all over the world, and He thus arranged for the Battle of Kuruksetra.
Note: Stealing Srila Prabhupada the PURE BRAHMANA VAISNAVA’S Temples, disciples, Money, Discarding the July 9th 1977 Ritvik Order, usurping the BBT, changing Srila Prabhupada’s books consequences are VERY VERY VERY HEAVY. They enjoying now: PAY LATER in serpent, worm forms:
KB 64 The Story of King Nrga
Lord Krsna continued: “If some foolish king who is puffed up by his wealth, prestige and power wants to usurp a brahmana’s property, it should be understood that such a king is clearing his path to hell; he does not know how much he has to suffer for such unwise action. If someone takes away the property of a very liberal brahmana who is encumbered by a large dependent family, then such a usurper is put into the hell known as Kumbhipaka; not only is he put into this hell, but his family members also have to accept such a miserable condition of life. A PERSON WHO TAKES AWAY PROPERTY WHICH HAS EITHER BEEN AWARDED TO A BRAHMANA OR GIVEN AWAY BY HIM IS CONDEMNED TO LIVE FOR AT LEAST 60,000 YEARS AS MISERABLY AS AN INSECT IN STOOL.
Therefore I instruct you, all My boys and relatives present here, do not, even by mistake, take the possession of a brahmana and thereby pollute your whole family. IF SOMEONE EVEN WISHES TO POSSESS SUCH PROPERTY, LET ALONE ATTEMPTS TO TAKE IT AWAY BY FORCE, THE DURATION OF HIS LIFE WILL BE REDUCED. HE WILL BE DEFEATED BY HIS ENEMIES, AND AFTER BEING BEREFT OF HIS ROYAL POSITION, WHEN HE GIVES UP HIS BODY HE WILL BECOME A SERPENT. A serpant gives trouble to all other living entities. My dear boys and relatives, I therefore advise you that even if a brahmana becomes angry with you and calls you by ill names or cuts you, still you should not retaliate. On the contrary, you should smile, tolerate him and offer your respects to the brahmana. You know very well that even I Myself offer My obeisances to the brahmanas with great respect three times daily. You should therefore follow My instruction and example. I shall not forgive anyone who does not follow them, and I shall punish him. YOU SHOULD LEARN FROM THE EXAMPLE OF KING NRGA THAT EVEN IF SOMEONE UNKNOWINGLY USURPS THE PROPERTY OF A BRAHMANA, HE IS PUT INTO A MISERABLE CONDITION OF LIFE.”
Mahesh: It is BIG conspiracy to LOOT Srila Prabhupada’s assets, DUPE THE INNOCENT for worshiping the BOGUS CONDITIONED SOUL gurus and they have CHOSEN to partake of the results of SINFUL REACTIONS. Srila Prabhupada is very clear of the followers destination also:
SB 6.7.14 Indra Offends His Spiritual Master, Brhaspati.
A stone boat would be unable to float and would sink in the water with its passengers. SIMILARLY, THOSE WHO MISLEAD PEOPLE GO TO HELL, AND THEIR FOLLOWERS GO WITH THEM.
PSEUDO GURUS IN THE GARB OF RELIGIOUS PROPAGANDISTS
The pseudo religionists have neither knowledge nor detachment from material affairs, for most of them want to live in the golden shackles of material bondage under the shadow of philanthropic activities disguised as religious principles. By a false display of religious sentiments, they present a show of devotional service while indulging in all sorts of immoral activities. In this way they pass as spiritual masters and devotees of God. Such violators of religious principles have no respect for the authoritative acaryas, the holy teachers in the strict disciplic succession.
THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA--"ONE MUST WORSHIP THE ACARYA"--and Krsna's statement in the Bhagavad-gita (4.2) evam parampara-praptam, "This supreme science of God is received through the disciplic succession." Instead, to mislead the people in general they themselves become so-called acaryas, but they do not even follow the principles of the acaryas. These rogues are the most dangerous elements in human society. Because there is no religious government, they escape punishment by the law of the state. They cannot, however, escape the law of the Supreme, who has clearly declared in the Bhagavad-gita that envious demons in the garb of religious propagandists shall be thrown into the darkest regions of hell (Isopanisad 12)
SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE PSEUDO RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE UNIVERSE AFTER THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT SIMPLY FOR SENSE GRATIFICATION. (Bg.16.19-20)
(Note: they do NOT recognise the superior unique position of Prabhupada, acarya gives diksa to madhyam adhikari see antya lila 4.192-194) therefore competition envy of Prabhupada leads to splicing tapes and concoction of 2\3 majority voted "guru" BUSINESS FRANCHISE club.)
Arrogance, pride, anger, conceit, harshness and ignorance--these qualities belong to those of demoniac nature, O son of Prtha. (Bg 16.4)
"In this verse, the royal road to hell is described. The demoniac want to make a show of religion and advancement in spiritual science, although they do not follow the principles. They are always arrogant and proud in possessing some type of education or so much wealth. THEY DESIRE TO BE WORSHIPED BY OTHERS, AND DEMAND RESPECTABILITY, ALTHOUGH THEY DO NOT COMMAND RESPECT. Over trifles they become very angry and speak harshly, not gently. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND WHAT SHOULD NOT BE DONE. THEY DO EVERYTHING WHIMSICALLY, ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DESIRE, AND THEY DO NOT RECOGNIZE ANY AUTHORITY. These demoniac qualities are taken on by them from the beginning of their bodies in the wombs of their mothers, and as they grow they manifest all these inauspicious qualities." (Bg 16.4 Pp.)